chapter 4


III HEAVEN

 

Chapters 4 through 7 are happening in heaven. Chapter 12 is a parenthetical, a spiritual glance of Israel, The Christ, the Great Red Dragon Satan being cast to earth for his last 7 years before the millennium.  The sealing of the saints on their foreheads, the saints are given garments, and worship God. The description of heaven is here. John is taken into heaven and he gets to see the Lord, sitting on His throne.
Recommend reading Dr. Heiser’s books and watching his online Seminars! His book and online seminars with the title, “The Unseen Realm”, are greatly appreciated in this day and age. For Chapter 12 of Revelation he offers another book with fascinating insight to understanding.
{{{Dr. Michael S. Heiser, “Reversing Hermon”, Part II, Chapter 4, pages 55 – 70.
Chapter 4, ‘The Sin of the Watchers and the Birth of Jesus.’ ‘Revelation 12 as Astral Prophecy.’
“There is a good deal of evidence (e.g., zodiac mosaics in ancient Jewish synagogues) that faithful, theologically conservative Jews believed that divine activity that would have an impact on earthly events could  be discerned in the skies–activity they were careful to attribute to the true God and no other gods.”
(See pg 288, NOTES, no. 100. See for example these studies: Jodi Magness, “Helios and the Zodiac Cycle in Ancient Palestinian Synagogues,” Dumbarton Oaks Papers 59 (2005): 1-52; Rachel Hachlili, “The Zodiac in Ancient Jewish Art: Representation and Significance,” Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental ResearchI 228 (Dec. 1977) 61-77; James H. Charlesworth, “Jewish Astrology in the Talmud, Pseudepigrapha, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and Early Palestinian Synagogues,” Harvard Theological Review 70:3/4 (July-October 1977) 183-200.)}}}

VISION OF TEMPLE

 

Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

This verse is usually considered the point of the Rapture. ‘Come up hither’ and no mention of  ‘the’ church anymore. It ‘is’ at the same time as 6:9.

[Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then [I saw] the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received [his] mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.]

 

Rev 4:2 Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne. Rev 4:3-5; 2 Chr 18:18; Isa 6:1; Eze 10:1;

 

2 Chr 18:18; Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the LORD; I saw the LORD sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and [on] his left.

Isa 6:1; In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

Eze 10:1; Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.

 

Rev 4:3 And He who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald. Eze 1:26; 10:1;

  

Eze 1:26; And above the firmament that [was] over their heads [was] the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne [was] the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. 27And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.

Eze 10:1; Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.

 

24 ELDERS

Rev 4:4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads.Rev 4:4,10; 5:8,14; 11:16; 19:4; (Rev 3:5; 3:18; 4:4; 6:11; 7:9,13,14; 15:6; 19:8,14; Ex 28:2; Lev 16:4; Isa 61:10; Dan 7:9)

24 thrones, 24 elders, (See 4:10)

(white robes)

(Ex 28:2; And thou shalt make holy garments for Aaron thy brother for glory and for beauty.

Lev 16:4; He shall put on the holy linen coat, and he shall have the linen breeches upon his flesh, and shall be girded with a linen girdle, and with the linen mitre shall he be attired: these [are] holy garments; therefore shall he wash his flesh in water, and [so] put them on.

Isa 61:10; I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh [himself] with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth [herself] with her jewels.

Dan 7:9; I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire.)

 

Rev 4:5 And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. Rev 1:4,12,16,20; 2:1; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6; 15:1,7;

  

LIVING CREATURES

Rev 4:6 Before the throne there was a sea of glass, like crystal. And in the midst of the throne, and around the throne, were four living creatures full of eyes in front and in back. Rev 4:6-8; 5:6,8; Isa 6:1-3; 11:2; Eze 1:5-28; 10:9; Zec 4:1-7;

  

Isa 6:1In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. 2Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. 3And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, [is] the LORD of hosts: the whole earth [is] full of his glory.

Isa 11:2And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

Eze 1:5; Also out of the midst thereof [came] the likeness of four living creatures. And this [was] their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.

Eze 10:9; And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels [was] as the colour of a beryl stone.

Zec 4:1And the angel that talked with me came again, and waked me, as a man that is wakened out of his sleep,
2And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all [of] gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which [are] upon the top thereof:
3And two olive trees by it, one upon the right [side] of the bowl, and the other upon the left [side] thereof. 4So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying, What [are] these, my lord? 5Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 6Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This [is] the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.  7Who [art] thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel [thou shalt become] a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone [thereof with] shoutings, [crying], Grace, grace unto it. 

Rev 4:7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second living creature like a calf, the third living creature had a face like a man, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle. Rev 4:6-8; 5:6,8; Eze 1:5; 10:14;

Living creature (lion, calf, man, eagle)

 [Ezekiel – cherub, man, lion, eagle

Rev – calf,man, lion,eagle] 

Eze 10:14; And every one had four faces: the first face [was] the face of a cherub, and the second face [was] the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.

 

Rev 4:8 The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying: Rev 4:6-8; 5:6,8; Isa 6:2,3; 41:4; 44:6; 48:12; 2 Chron 16:9; Eze 1:18; 10:12-14; Zech 3:9;4:10;(Rev 1:4,5,8,11,17; 2:8; 4:8; 21:6; 22:13;)

 “Holy, holy, holy,

 Lord God Almighty,

 Who was and is and is to come!” 

Isaiah 6:2Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. 3And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, [is] the LORD of hosts: the whole earth [is] full of his glory.

Isaiah 41:4Who hath wrought and done [it], calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I [am] he.

Isaiah 44:6Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.

Isaiah 48:12Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I [am] he; I [am] the first, I also [am] the last.

Eze 1:5Also out of the midst thereof [came] the likeness of four living creatures. And this [was] their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. 6And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings. 7And their feet [were] straight feet; and the sole of their feet [was] like the sole of a calf’s foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass. 8And [they had] the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings. 9Their wings [were] joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward. 10As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.  11Thus [were] their faces: and their wings [were] stretched upward; two [wings] of every one [were] joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.

Eze 1:18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings [were] full of eyes round about them four.

Eze 10:12And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, [were] full of eyes round about, [even] the wheels that they four had. 13As for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing, O wheel. 14And every one had four faces: the first face [was] the face of a cherub, and the second face [was] the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.

2 Chron 16:9For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of [them] whose heart [is] perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.

Zech 3:9For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone [shall be] seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.

Zech 4:10For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel [with] those seven; they [are] the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

 

Rev 4:9 Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever,

 

Rev 4:10 the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying: Rev 4:4,10; 5:8,14; 11:16; 19:4; Matt 19:28; Luke 22:30;

 

24 elders (There is a lot of assuming that these elders have received their crowns for rewards, and they willingly cast them back to God. I believe this has nothing to do with rewards, but crowns, and I just don’t think they are casting rewarded crowns back as worship, but crowns that they take off and place at the feet of the victorious King. Due respect.  I just don’t see enough evidence from scripture to assume these crowns represent rewards. It is just a silly notion some have made up. Telling someone here on earth they will receive crowns for ‘rewards,’ and say what they think is worthy of a reward in their view, is ‘puffed up’ and self-righteous. Certainly not what rewards are. No one knows who the 24 elders are and there is nothing in scripture that identifies them. If the 24 elders are the disciples and the 12 tribes of Jacob then, I also am curious to know if John is one of the 24 elders sitting there and at the same time telling what he saw. Granted he is very modest. 

Matt 19:28; “And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” Ref. to the 12 Apostles; (also Lk 22:30) This is just not convincing enough evidence to conclude these 24 elders are any of the apostles.

 

Rev 4:11“You are worthy, O Lord,

 To receive glory and honor and power;

 For You created all things,

 And by Your will they exist and were created.”

 

Chapters 4 through 7 are happening in heaven. Chapter 12 is a parenthetical, a spiritual glance of Israel, The Christ, the Great Red Dragon Satan being cast to earth for his last 7 years before the millennium. They glimpse  the entire church age, through the Rapture. The sealing of the saints foreheads, the saints are given garments, and worship God. The description of heaven is here. See Dr. Michael S. Heiser info preceding ‘Vision of Temple’ chapter 4.

Chapter 5 The Lamb, who is Emmanuel, appears as a Lamb and has prevailed in Chapter 6 to open the 7 seals. Each seal represents a period of time that happens at the same time as the Church ages.

Will continue to add chapters, a work in progress. Please send any comments to lrtgz3@gmail.com. Thank you.

To be Continued, with chapter 5